The source code was fun to read especially inside the <!-- tags
#480 :: Tony Rivas said:
I just found that HTML5 video uses flash as backup, how lame!. And you have to upload 2 o 3 videos instead of one. Lame again!.
Please, someone put a photo of HTML5 on the fail blog.
#479 :: Ant said:
HTML5 is a complete joke.
Anyone who says it'll revolutionize anything knows absolutely nothing about the toppic.
As far as replacing Flash, lol, that's just delusional.
But it will have it's place it just won't be revolutionary, and I predict the timeframe between HTML 5 and HTML 6 will be relatively short.
HTML 5 is being marketed by crap companies like APPLE as a revolution, but it's nothing but a business stab at Adobe.
And to all people claiming that theory, I can honestly say you know absolutely nothing about the subject and future will hold your biggest lesson.
#478 :: Jeff said:
Anyone named John Dixon should probably do his home work and shut his mouth. Tanner's right. With the growing number of people contributing to HTML5 and choosing to incorporate parts of it as it evolves, the release date will come years before 2022. YouTube already utilizes it, Safari and Chrome are almost 100% compatible with it. Dixon is just a naysayer who probably couldn't design a website any better than a toddler.
#JohnDixon {
position: absolutleyLame;
top: he'll never get there;
bottom: home sweet home;
padding: he's fat;
skills: 0;
}
'skills' is a new HTML5 thing, Safari supports it.
#477 :: John Dixon said:
Anyone who is interested in HTML5 and it's REAL release date should look at the number at the top of this page.
John Dixon
Web Designer since 1997
#476 :: Tanner Campbell said:
Also anyone who is interested in HTML5 and it's REAL release date should watch this.
http://bit.ly/aIXEdF
#475 :: Tanner Campbell said:
HTML5 is 100% a move forward. Anyone not supporting this move, and not taking the time to learn it as it evolves, is shooting themselves in the foot.
There seems to be a lot of argument about it's need ... to that I say: HTML4 is HEAVY and STRUGGLING if we want to take web and mobile authoring to the next level, we've got to evolve the language. Just like we evolved from HTML 3.2
Tanner Campbell
Web Designer since 1999
#474 :: billfg said:
If you look at the source code, you will see that the <time> tag is used, which is an HTML5 tag.
http://www.w3schools.com/html5/tag_time.asp
#473 :: Lee McColl Sylvester said:
STABLE in ALL browsers? That's never happened and never will. Wait until then? No way! I'm gonna do what I can where I can and enjoy it. Life's too short.
#472 :: Cornface said:
Sure some browsers support some HTML 5 tags ans JS but righ tnow it is a broken specification and shouldn't be taken seriously in ANY business application right now. It's not ready as a stable implementation and won't be for a while. Sorry people, full HTML5 won't be widespread stable in browser for quite some time. If you have been developing at all in your life then you'd know to wait until the entire spec is implemented in FULL ans STABLE in ALL browsers before you'd use it in any sort of important application. Accept it.
#471 :: Beth said:
Take a look at this bug: http://tiny.cc/78rsa
Clients are beginning to request websites in html5 and this is what we have to work with???
#470 :: Super Future Guy said:
I already created HTML 7. It only works in my customer browser. No, you can't see it.
#469 :: Henry Thomas Michael Leo the 5th. said:
Many of you should learn how to write a coherent sentence before writing anything online. HTML 5 is not going to correct your poor English or suddenly make your paragraphs relevant.
You should all respect Mr. Cornelius and his fine work here. If Soul Train was still filming, we would have no idea how long a wait HTML5 is.
I am excited for HTML5, though it will take forevvveeerrrr.
#465 :: BS said:
"NO is a negative word. it doesn't say much but it means a lot."
You ask anybody who has just received medical test results for a terminal illness and they'll tell you - NO is a positive word. it doesn't say much but it means a lot.
"and why am i posting here?"
I haven't a clue - perhaps you're mad!
#464 :: Nathan Sokalski said:
How are we supposed to be prepared to start using HTML 5 when it is most likely going to be changed by the time it is released anyway? Don't even tell us it is coming until it is finalized so that we can start learning what we will actually be using. And what do you think is going to happen with the browsers? when they try to implement it early, each one will do it differently, and then people won't bother to update their browsers when the correct implementation is available, and we'll have browser inconsistency all over again!
#463 :: Terrence Campbell said:
I'll be coding as much as i can to bring almost ever feature possible for HTML5 on my website, this will take a long time but i want to see what HTML5 is made of. I'm tired of memory hogging applications like Flash and Silverlight.
#462 :: BS said:
"This really is a difficult question."
To help you, the answer is in big bold letters at the top of the page.
#461 :: Leo Zhang said:
This really is a difficult question.
#460 :: CrudOMatic said:
XHTML forever. Use your pages as markup AND data - HTML5 can't even begin to mess with that.
Not to mention - but what is the point of removing the acronym tag, but leaving in abbr? Why did they choose h.264 for the video tag when h.264 is closed source and browser makers have to pay a licensing fee to have h.264 video support in their browsers???
What happened to this "free and open web" that was supposed to come from this?
I suggest everyone abort their html5 projects - I don't see this making it until 2022, much less 2012.
XHTML is the way to go.
#459 :: Jimmy said:
Is it me, or was the purpose of XHTML 1.0 because when HTML 4.0 came out they said
'HTML 4.0 is gonna be the last one ever...' then a short while later they said 'oops we forgot a couple of things, so we are gonna go with HTML 4.1, and this is , I promise, going to be the last one, oh apart from XHTML 1.0, but that doesnt count cos its not HTML, its XHTML, so there wont be any other versions, I swear down, it's not gonna happen, and if it does it will be XHTML '
...
wait a minute, we forgot something else so just ignore everything we just said cos HTML is coming! yay! HTML 5 is here to stay! '
#458 :: RR said:
"it doesn't mean they are guaranteed to work tomorrow, next week, or next year. "
Yes it does, because HTML5 is backwards-compatible, and will stay that way FOREVER.
#457 :: Laurie said:
For those recently commenting that this site works with HTML5 and that you can use HTML5 today have missed the point.
HTML5 is not due for the RC until 2012 and full ratification by the W3C until 2022. So although this site and many others may work in most browsers today, it doesn't mean they are guaranteed to work tomorrow, next week, or next year. Sensible designers would steer clear of using HTML5 on major websites for a long time as faults may appear at any time due to changes in the HTML5 spec or changes in a browsers design.
#456 :: Joe Zhang said:
Trying to use Chinese here...
大家好么？
#455 :: Grandma Jo said:
I see this website uses HTML5
#454 :: Durr said:
'this site still exist' because 'the web still exist'. The demand for working cross-browser, cross-platform interactive solutions still exists and despite the dull din of the uninformed trying to 'fast-track' html5 for some bizarre reason (good luck with that)- 'Flash still exist.' And it will for a very long time.
#453 :: R said:
Why do this site still exist? This whole thing is a misunderstanding - you can use HTML5 today! And by 2012 you will most likely be able to use HTML5 in full everywhere!
#452 :: Reason A Bubble said:
Will html5 be shiny coz I'm attracted to shiny, over comlicated reinventions for the sake of technical grandstanding!?
#451 :: poprocksand said:
doomsday is supposedly schduled dec 21st, 2012. we're extinct 10 years by then. hahaha!
#450 :: Des said:
I'm not impressed at all, you don't need all the junk that HTMl 5 promises in order to make a great website.
#449 :: XHTML strict 1.0 guy said:
there is a big differance between "ready" and "launched". some people are using it, but in no way is it READY as a whole. I agree whole heartedly here in 2010 that no one will say it was 100% ready till 2021. I am not even going to use it till 2015.
#448 :: dj said:
Developing html5 now! but why it's that much day left for you????
#447 :: Rich said:
aw man not in my life time.. and i'm only 20.. lol, the huge NO was pretty funny because I wasn't expecting such a straight answer.
#446 :: cupertinoDavey said:
wow, is that right? surely its here sooner than that!!!!
i guess we just have to boggle our minds with the far-future possibilities in the meantime.
in my opinion, nothing impresses more than http://www.optimum7.com/css3-man/animation.html
clearly this heralds a paradigm shift - Jobs is right on the money. the web will never ever be the same again.
#445 :: Ravindra Singh said:
I am waiting for it desperately , plz make it available soon.
#444 :: Bean said:
when I can get the HTML5, looking to work on HTML5....
I am a geek of HTML5... LOL.......
#443 :: Kent said:
" At least IE6 will be dead " its been dead for a long time - but for some reasons people still keep the smelly IE corpse in their house.
#442 :: Ryan said:
HTML5 is away to be launched pretty soon.......
#441 :: Andrew said:
For those of you old enough to know this has all happened before. Macs WERE better than PC's and they closed all manufacturers out by not allowing them to clone. Result PC's became dominant. Once again Apple are trying to lock everyone out. Soon a cheap Ipad type machine will come out be compatable with all 9including flash) and once again Apple with be left out. Then HTML 5 wont be a big priority again. This entire debacle created by Apple takes us back 15 years when Internet use was restricted by technology. Now we are being restricted again. HTML 5 isn't the future. It's part of a marketing ploy by Apple to regain web dominance. They never did forgive Microsoft for burying the incredible dominance they were getting with the Mac. Go back to 1998 and look at the changes. Now go forward 10 years. So much more is going to happen. HTML 5 will do well, so will Flash and anyone else that comes up with a good idea.
#440 :: Ken said:
The "NO" would be more convincing if it was in Flash.
#439 :: Michael I said:
This is such a funny website! ahahaha
"Error: Are you new to the Internet? All fields are required."
LOL!!!!
#438 :: ME! said:
HTML5 is already out!!! Espn.com usesit!
#437 :: jemin said:
this website make me crazy.
the time so long....
#436 :: Laurie said:
Thanks. I was just about to buy an HTML5 book from Amazon, which are all due for release next month (July 2010).
I might as well wait and get a cheap 10 year old copy!
#435 :: Josef said:
At least IE6 will be dead.
#434 :: Michael said:
haha its fun, if we start developing our greek travel website now, we might have somethngi really impressive by 2024
#433 :: Wayne Smith said:
A binary number sent to the server with the content type would set the a way forward.
For an image type -
1 = bitmap
2 = gif
3 = bitmap and gif
4 = jpeg
.
.
.
1024 = really good graphics format
http://wsmithdesign.wordpress.com/
#432 :: Wayne Smith said:
Ready or not, HTML 4 is no longer state of the art. Browsers have continued to grow.
I would wish that they proactively set a way forward to html6 in telling the server what features they support - Say like the CONTENT-TYPE for javascript.
Maybe someday: http://diveintohtml5.org/past.html
#431 :: jloa said:
By that time i will already have 2 teenaged children... Omg ^_^
#430 :: Renyo said:
i will die and i wont work on it... aahaha
#429 :: VC said:
HTML5 is gonna be legen... wait 4 it... dary!
#428 :: Keith said:
http://ishtml5ready.com/ ;)
http://html5demos.com/
#427 :: AllenJB said:
"For all we know, HTML could be completely replaced by a more sophisticated language in that time."
It already was - see XHTML with modules
#426 :: krisdascher said:
Slowly, they're getting it. I'm not sharing my pony with Steve Jobs.
#425 :: Leask Huang said:
Our team using HTML 5!
It's Cool!
I'm love' it.
#424 :: Jurij Fedorov said:
Ow man,Adobe Flash is so finished! (in 4231 days and then some)
#423 :: DROP ALL TABLES said:
DROP ALL TABLES
#422 :: today said:
Uh, yeah... remember, Adobe is not the company trying to 'kill' established technologies! Of course they show support for HTML5.
Displaying some text is vary different than creating complex apps that perform well across multiple browsers & platforms.
HTML5 has a years of adoption to go- and it would be naive to think that meanwhile other technologies will be sitting idle in the meantime.
#421 :: Patrick Koster said:
Adobe showing its support for HTML5:
http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/html5pack.html
#420 :: FM Paulson said:
Wow, is this website coded in HTML5? Big deal. Couldn't it have been done in HTML4 or HTML3? Where's the beef?
#419 :: Mr Zajber said:
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML5
- "Ian Hickson, editor of the HTML5 specification, expects the specification to reach the W3C Candidate Recommendation stage during 2012, and W3C Recommendation in the year 2022 or later. However, many parts of the specification are stable and may be implemented in products."
Source: http://wiki.whatwg.org/wiki/FAQ#When_will_HTML5_be_finished.3F
- "It is estimated by the editor that HTML5 will reach the W3C Candidate Recommendation stage during 2012. That doesn't mean you can't start using it yet, though. Different parts of the specification are at different maturity levels. Some sections are already relatively stable and there are implementations that are already quite close to completion, and those features can be used today (e.g. <canvas>). But other sections are still being actively worked on and changed regularly, or not even written yet."
So the research some people claim that other people should do will result in this. The HTML5 standard will not be ready for a loooong time BUT multiple parts of it can be used today and works great, as on this page.
I am just getting a bit angry at people that think that because they use it, it is ready. Still much work to be done...
#418 :: Vaibhav Gadodia said:
Works for me. So, that number is wrong :D
Although, if it was wrong, I would fail the Turing test below, and this comment will not be posted.
#417 :: Adam said:
Sweet...
#416 :: Mr Pepper said:
Guys, HTML5 is already fairly well supported. Can you see this page? THIS WEBSITE IS CODED WITH HTML5. Do some research :P
#415 :: Charbel said:
2022 is too far. HTML5 should be released sooner then this. I think that we will have more features and needs in 2022 so that HTML5 will be counted old :D
#414 :: ashvin said:
2012 will be here first!
#413 :: better things to do said:
Ditto on that. Like I have time to re-code everything because Steve Jobs thinks the development world will come crawling to his feet.... please.
It's Android to the rescue- with support for both Flash AND HTML5.
Consumers (and savvy developers) will always benefit from choice!
#412 :: Bob said:
HTML5 is no where near ready. Try to make something complex with it and view it with more than one browser... HA you can't because it's CRAP! I refuse to code multiple times if you have an Iphone or ipad your simply out of luck as far as I'm concerned.
#411 :: The milky bar kid said:
I has a HtMl5
#410 :: Aaron Cisk said:
What is this date based on?
#409 :: Nathanael Ritz said:
Lawl. The source code for this site is HTML5. That's fun. Not quite valid HTML5, but pretty darn close. Truth be told, you can start using lots of HTML5 right now.
#408 :: iGarni said:
hmmmmm ..
Until HTML5 is ready, HTML6 will appear .. :-P
#407 :: Al Brown said:
HTML5 is going to solve everything right so was HTML4 and CSS. It takes time and Flash does its thing great right now. I'll use HTML5 5 years from now until then Flash
Remember, these are running on an iPad- a device that is supposed to champion "today's capabilities" of HTML5.
It will be interesting to see how similar demos perform on Android phones & tablets, when Flash 10.1 arrives for Android in June- early videos tell us they are going to to be quite fast and battery optimized.
HTML 5 shows promise, but Flash is 'already there'- and won't be exactly be standing still while HTML 5 catches up.
#402 :: Whoshaka said:
It is as ready as the browsers dictate, imho, it has been ready. Hell, it is implemented everyday.
#401 :: reality said:
Cough Cough FlaAsH cough...
Cough... cough steveJobsIsFullOfshIT cough...
Cough.
#400 :: KrAAsH47 said:
Why so many days.... I thought maybe it was a joke or javascript programming error but then looking at the comments it real. Why are the HTML 5 specs taking so long.. maybe your wanting for all devices to use this or watiing to other manufactors specs to use them here also. I noticed a few comments about IE 6 .. Will OE6 not be able to use HTML5 and should there be a way to just update existing sites using WYSIWYG editors.. some people still handcode there sites.
4263 beers on the wall 4263 bottles of beer ROFL!
By the time this comes out katrina will be finally cleaned up and another one to wipe out florida D=! prepare yourselves xD!!!
#399 :: Mohammad Koubeissi said:
HTML5 Come ALIVE!
#398 :: crapper said:
I thought we are all gonna die in 2012 ... lol
yeah, i can surely tell my customers to f**k off and wait until we are corrupted.
#397 :: Cyrus said:
Can html 5 do this? I think not!
#396 :: voiceOfReason said:
In the real world you can't tell clients "sorry, make all of your customers upgrade to Safari 4 so I can use HTML 5". IE6 is (unfortunately) still a popular browser- and it's 10 years old.
#395 :: voiceOfReason said:
Why do people have to be so polarized about this crap. HTML5 has years of adoption to go in a best case scenario. Nothing's black and white. If you've ever had to make a web app run across multiple browsers and versions- you know what I'm talking about.
#394 :: mchapra said:
Flash >>>>>>> HTML5.
#393 :: Jack Russel said:
I guess HTML 6 will be out before HTML5 then? lol
#392 :: kwilliams said:
Only 4266 more days until all the iPad haters can eat their words!
#391 :: Will said:
18 years just to release 1 new version of HTML. It took only six years to go through 4 large revisions, whats with the huge deadline?!
For all we know, HTML could be completely replaced by a more sophisticated language in that time.
#390 :: Reason A Bubble said:
Can't wait!
Hopefully I can get it early so I can use it with my Ifad.
I love fashion related technologies.
#389 :: hamdi123 said:
i wont be using it, because i will be retired
#388 :: Dan M said:
omg so many days remaining. At least we are able to use it today.
#387 :: Prash said:
they said it will be released in periods. I want to know date of the first release.....lol 2022 ...microsoft may release other type of html5 before html5 release in 2022...plz make it fast.
#386 :: Austin said:
How am I just now finding out about this if it has been known since at least 12 sept 2008? How could I have possibly missed something this RETARDED?
#385 :: ixley said:
ixley atack!
#384 :: Sergiu said:
heh, there are only 12 yrs to go :D
#383 :: Deathmask said:
LOL, 2022...yeah...
#382 :: Miguel Mota said:
2022? lol
#381 :: Kye said:
Yes, I'd like to browse the internet without my CPU being eaten, thanks.
#380 :: Andrew said:
html 5 cant come out until ie6 is dead.
#379 :: John said:
Canvas has been around since HTML 3/4! It's not the same Canvas as the HTML 5 one. Fool.
#378 :: realityDistortionField said:
But but but... Steve Jobs said it's the future of the internets... so HTML 5 must be wrong. I think we should ban it from all iDevices for daring to suggest that Steve could be wrong.
#377 :: jezz said:
I won't be alive when HTML5 will comes out.
#376 :: Sameh Hady said:
Who said HTML5 is not ready yet ?
Since youtube started using it i started playing around.
check my beta demo for HTML5 new element <convas>
in this demo there is no flash at all only PURE HTML & Javascript
http://www.tricorns.com/html5-demo.html
#375 :: ecff said:
I would rather say 4285 years to go.
#374 :: kd said:
Not sure if any HTML5 champions have worked creating web pages using css and javascript. But when you do you will be looking for someone to trade your left nut to to make it work across all browsers without having to create seperate styles and sheets for each browser. Developing something 3 times over is fun! At least it makes my pay cheques bigger, I would like to have some weekends though.
#373 :: Juha-Jarmo Heinonen said:
IS FLASH READY YET?
Its specification is constantly changing:
Several changes since the first comment!
#372 :: Sarfraz Ahmed said:
4294 days to go !!! Why the hell we have been told about html5 so early??? Giving us only bunch of dreams for the moment, something we should not be talking about at the moment :(
#371 :: sergy said:
fuck youtube and their closed html5 format shit. poor firefox.
#370 :: Angelo Gulina said:
Who made this stuff?
#369 :: chenyang said:
let's rock
#368 :: ezzze said:
let ie6 die first
#367 :: Facu said:
OMG!
#366 :: Simon said:
Just in time for iPad 7.0!
#365 :: Oty said:
This is funny,. this website is written in HTML 5
#364 :: Jeff Geerling said:
This is kind of ironic, don't you think?
#363 :: Junior said:
I can haz HTML5
#362 :: J Cornelius said:
Seriously. View source people.
#361 :: Kabayo said:
This site is on HTML5...
#360 :: Milho said:
Well... the world will end at 21 Dec 2012... so why bother?
#359 :: Paullette said:
Ah, it's great being backwards when coming forwards.
#358 :: M Olsson said:
Not really no, a draft may be done but not the real deal. If the real deal was done people would be so much more forward to using it...
#357 :: recep ivedik said:
Surpriseeeee!!! It's ready...
#356 :: Hi said:
"ECMAScript 3.1" sucks ass. So have fun in your HTML 5 sandbox.
#355 :: noname said:
why it's so long?
#354 :: james braselton said:
hi there why cant we use dull webrowsers and dull html5 and quicktime video players useing duo core cpus thats not impossibale with new computer cpus power ram and storage capacity it possibale
#353 :: Thomas Broyer said:
RT @diveintomark: you realize that 2022 is the target for 2 complete interoperable implementations, right? By that definition, HTML4 isn't ready yet.
See http://twitter.com/diveintomark/status/8988244339
#352 :: Comments counter said:
We just need more 4340 (unique) comments to reach a break through.
#351 :: Brendan said:
That's not much of a Turing Test...
#350 :: whiteliquid said:
4341 days left.
#349 :: Isaac said:
Bummer. 4343 days left. Long time, no see.
#348 :: Vikram said:
It would be great to email all these folks back and let them know the that the spec is ready. ROCK THEIR MIND MAN!
P.S. I am not a robot. I put in zero, your machine failed the test.
P.P.S. OK, okay. Nosey aren't we.
#347 :: Brett said:
Well, crap. That's like saying "I'll give you a check for $5,000 - but it's not good until 2022!" :)
#346 :: Hmm said:
But... why? Is some guy on a coffee break or something?
#345 :: arbly said:
Really!? o.O
#344 :: Vivek Rp said:
How Should I Convert My Existing HTML Sites To HTML 5 Sites?
#343 :: Carlos Pacheco said:
Well, I guess I shall begin coding RDF/Turtle then!
#342 :: Marc said:
I hate not having flash or HTML5. Damn you Steve!!!
#341 :: Julian said:
wow, not like thats another 12 years or anything...
#340 :: Ali Nakipoglu said:
Looks like after moving human kind to Mars Planet they can use HTML5 :D
#339 :: Steve said:
Wow, i think i'll put myself in cryo sleep. There's no way i can wait over a decade.
#338 :: stefani said:
参赞天地之化育 ???
#337 :: balu.ertl said:
I couldn't wait for this date -- but suppose should.
#336 :: Patrick said:
Lots of time for Mozilla to get ready then ;)
#335 :: Arzt said:
Still waiting for HTML5 at <a href="http://www.info-aerzte.de">Arzt</a> Info.
#334 :: N F said:
My feet are getting wet, if i walk without shoes, but drink i shall not.
#333 :: Yeah said:
its gona be a plant we put in our brain and will always be connected to the Internet.
#332 :: haK said:
Long timee....
#331 :: Screamest said:
This is dumb so 11 years until html5 comes out? We wont even be using browsers by the time its ready!
#330 :: Luke Price said:
CTRL + U really don't get the irony?
Geek t shirts that you'd actually wear over at http://returnvoid.co.uk
#329 :: vreny said:
still soooooo long.........
#328 :: Andrew said:
... and 629 days until IPv4 runs out. Why does life revolve around countdowns?
#327 :: onehundredandtwo said:
Google's using it, so I don't see any reason why I can't... :)
#326 :: Bobbie said:
4376 bottles of beer on the wall, 4376 bottles of beeerrrrr.... tee hee
#325 :: Germain LECOURTOIS said:
The futur is near ... Flash 4 Life
#324 :: Michael said:
Yes, HTML5 is ready!
#323 :: ravi said:
oooooooooh man thts one damn long time
#322 :: aa said:
2012 is the end of our earth
#321 :: sheak said:
I'm waiting for that day!
#320 :: hcys said:
so long! I think I'm not a web designer that day!
#319 :: jessica said:
oh my god!so long time.
#318 :: Weakow Wang said:
I cannot wait until it dies itself.
#317 :: Alessandro said:
mmmm, para ese entonces el planeta estara inabitable jejejeje
#316 :: Rishi said:
Can't wait to see more HTML5 and CSS3 3D effect-compatible browsers out there.
#315 :: Dragun said:
Yaaaay :D Can't wait...
#314 :: digitron said:
So it's true. HTML 5 will finish itself.
#313 :: Oliver said:
Ohh noows.. that's like 380 505 600 seconds.. :(
#312 :: Rechung online schreiben said:
What is it? I do not now.
#311 :: Cartman said:
I can't wait that long ...
I got it, I'll freeze myself until 2022. Don't forget to unfreeze me then!
#310 :: SiteOne Web Design said:
Like Karma HTLM 5 will find its balance in the nature of Web Design!!!
Deep Man...
#309 :: Alex said:
waiting...
#308 :: boutique arte angels said:
last so many time!
#307 :: stadt waldkraiburg said:
I´m waiting for that along time yet. I hope for better features.
#306 :: Meaty said:
I love it!!!!!!!
I can't for HTML 5 so i can enhance my website!!! NO NEED FOR FLASH!!!!!
#305 :: stöpsl said:
still 4412 days to go... pretty long...
#304 :: Chris said:
Wow... what a long time!
#303 :: Ross Mason said:
Damn it I can't wait that long! I know we are getting bits and bobs of HTML 5 support from different vendors already but come on 4413 days! You are having a laugh!
#302 :: davecc said:
Well, that's quite ridiculous,we should have HTML25 by then...
#301 :: Mundgeruch said:
I wonder if it will still be called HTML by then...
#300 :: Angelreisen said:
That's a ridiculous amount of time. It could easily be outdated by the time it is released.
#299 :: Adam Shannon said:
Well, we can hope for 4416 to be truncated a bit. Maybe 44.16 days?
#298 :: .:Bunnylicious:. said:
Dang!! x] Go go go!!
#297 :: Piaume said:
Not ready yes, but quite active :
"The dl element is inappropriate for marking up dialogue. Examples of how to mark up dialogue are shown below."
Update your code ! :p
#296 :: Desiny said:
Did I blink and miss v5 ?!?
#295 :: Mike said:
Hurra....Only 4424 days to go.
#294 :: Sebastian said:
phew ... what a long time
#293 :: Michael Reichel said:
Can't wait...
#292 :: kjell said:
sigh... Anybody else viewed the page source and realized this is a satire? Judging from the comments, I guess not.
#291 :: M.Stoelken said:
HTML5 I'm waaaaaaiting ...
#290 :: Greg said:
Are we there yet? '"
#289 :: Kosmetik said:
Interesting... Ready for more informations.
#288 :: Earnup said:
What happens? I am interesting in more informations. Interesting site...
#287 :: Greg said:
Aw so far away, but given the work on it, seems accurate. lol
Can't wait haha ... The greatest joy is the joy of anticipation ...
#282 :: steffi Reiseversicherung said:
no comment!!
#281 :: pepijn said:
wel the estimation at the moment does not stand at 22 years, i just read. that the recomended version should be released somewhere this time next year.
which sounds more logical, since the new Google Wave thingie is already being built on HTML 5.0
and since there there is a small test group already working with Google Wave... this would mean.. 1 year is way more realistic then 22 years
source: http://www.w3.org/html/wg/
#280 :: Donald said:
Holy Crap dude - that can't be right? I'll be about 40 (I'm 27 now!) LOL!
#279 :: Alleinunterhalter said:
I cant wait for this to be released.
#278 :: stand said:
I'm still waiting for Typography
#277 :: thomas said:
HTML5 at Last Call; apparently it won't take that long anymore...
#276 :: Gavin said:
I'm still waiting for Typography 1.0
#275 :: Kevin Keene said:
HTML 5 - The "Duke Nukem Forever" of markup languages.
#274 :: Crim said:
WTF 12 years?
#273 :: Tygas said:
I offering everybody to add oldbrowsers_sucks.js which display error message for lammers
#272 :: Mona said:
Yes, it is ready. The internet is a sandbox and should be open to experiment with. There is always room for innovation. It is better to have many different routes that will lead to the same destination. This expands the capabilities of the web and of technology in general. And I fucking hate Microsoft. Maybe that has a lot to do with it too. GO GOOGLE!
#271 :: Austin said:
Just give Microsoft an extra 4896 days on top of that, then it'll be usable! :%
#270 :: Daniele Pignedoli said:
...will the web and the browsers still exists in 2022?!
#269 :: no said:
That's a long time.
#268 :: Peter said:
just seen this html5 video on youtube http://www.youtube.com/html5
#267 :: Oliver said:
Ohh noows.. that's like 385 689 600 seconds.. :(
#266 :: Eran said:
NO
Only 4466 days to go
#265 :: jscriptive said:
...it would make some nice technologies obsolete... but hey - aren't we always ready to learn something new?
#264 :: Phil said:
A bigger issue than how many days left is the impact. HTML 5 threatens to change the way we make RIA (e.g Flash and Silverlight) and how we use HTML (no longer just for formatting text.) It may be prolong and nasty war to get Software Engineers to embrace it.
#263 :: pfefferspray said:
very cool, i like it.
#262 :: Shimon said:
I believe we will see wide usage of HTML5 within next year or two, which is less than 1000 days from now.
#261 :: rolladenchrank said:
Damn it i can´t wait any longer ^^
#260 :: Thomas Broyer said:
And of course, no one here did a "view source" to find out that this page *is* HTML5 (well, used to, given that the "dialog" element has just been removed)
#259 :: Harald said:
They should really consider shortening that down!
I understand that they want it get done right but 12 years is way overkill. 4-7 years would be acceptable.
Hope they rethink that a little.
#258 :: Johnny said:
Usually everything happens really quickly on the web. 12 years is way too long to have it finished for imo.
#257 :: Immobilienmakler said:
12 Years ? crazy...
#256 :: Spanien Auswanderer said:
and the next one will appear soon again
#255 :: Why is my computer slow said:
Damn thats aaaaages!
#254 :: Ngan hang said:
very cool, i like it.
#253 :: Tonka said:
Bugger that! I'm gonna learn SGML instead.
#252 :: ausland said:
so far away
#251 :: Haarentfernung said:
I don't care! I'm using it anyway!
#250 :: Kanu dialani said:
4481 days!! wow.
I bet by then we will be reading our emails using on our sunglasses. Cars will have digital windshields with build in GPS and would highlight the route from the drivers viewing angle. Rent in Manhattan will be around $20,000/month for a studio apartment. And of course we will be using HTML 5 !!!!!
#249 :: tan said:
Only 4481 days to go. --!
#248 :: Hans said:
Only 4484 days left, we are almost there :D
#247 :: Mohammad Reza Pazooki said:
I'm waiting for that :D
come ..come ..come
#246 :: Nepali Forum said:
Wow, i will be waiting eagerly for the release. 4491 days are actually more...Do fast !!
#245 :: Kris said:
Really, they need to have something really chrome browser
#244 :: hersteller said:
what a day in xxxx day´s
#243 :: würzburger said:
I thing it is only 4493 days left ;-)
#242 :: Oliver said:
Ohh noows.. that's like 388 454 400 seconds.. :(
#241 :: Michael Schultz said:
Looking forward to HTML5 - with that amount of time, who knows? They might just have a lot more cool features by then :)
Browsers will be forced to update to HTML5's standards or be cast aside.
I hear you scream "WHAT ABOUT IE6!? It is still not being "cast aside" today despite it's disabilities!" - Well, unlike IE6 and that whole scenario, HTML5 entails a much higher change that coders (hopefully) will all be forced to use.
If the above is true, then all of the web will change, and browsers will have to change with the coding - or be replaced by browsers that are (relatively) better.
#240 :: Abdelrahman Osama Abdelwahab said:
It's brilliant, I can't wait to use it.
I'm just thinking how will it be rendered on old unsupported browsrers, is it backward-compatible.
#239 :: auslandskrankenversicherung said:
what a day, less den 4500
#238 :: reisekrankenversicherung said:
The countdown is running, now less than 4500 days
#237 :: HTML tutorial said:
Nice site!! and as for the amount of days to go before HTML 5 becomes valid WOW, i thought it was so much sooner than that. me starts counting now
#236 :: verpflichtungserklärung said:
only 4500 Days, nearly nothing
#235 :: reiserücktrittsversicherung said:
Wait, and SEE.
GReeeetings from Germayn
#234 :: Thomas Scholz said:
So we have to use frames and tables and target and marginwidth until 2022?
#233 :: transportadora said:
That´s a long way...
I can´t take myself!!
#232 :: Ryan Westfall said:
The real question is, when HTML5 is ready, how many browsers will fully support it? Sadly, it isn't about having a recommendation completed. It's about convincing browser developers to implement that recommendation.
#231 :: Tristan said:
I really think there's only 3500 days left :).
#230 :: Gav said:
I love it ;D
#229 :: Me said:
I'm using it!
#228 :: Otimização de Sites said:
Great!
I can´t wait for it... and waht about HTML6??
#227 :: bjorn said:
:-) you're now the number one result in google for "html5 date".
I was actually searching for the proper way to code dates in HTML5, here it is:
http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/Overview.html#the-time-element
<header>
<h1>my first HTML5</h1>
</header>
<section>
<header>
<h2>Sunil Shrestha</h2>
</header>
<p>I'm waiting HTML 5</p>
</section>
</body>
</html>
#225 :: Zen Savona said:
imo it will be more of a hindrance than anything else...
it has some nice features but will be a headache to implement.
#224 :: alert! said:
<script>
alert('hi');
</script>
#223 :: Daniel Wong said:
I found this page while doing a Google search for "is html5 relevant?". I think I found my answer. Honestly, this seems totally pointless.
At one point, HTML may have been under-standardized, but once HTML5 arrives, I believe it will be overstandardized (look at what you made me do: I had to invent a word just for this occasion). Just look at HTML4. It's been around forever, yet a huge proportion of people use browsers that implement it quite poorly. The problem isn't that HTML doesn't have enough wiz-bang features; it's that it takes _forever_ (even longer than to produce a standard) to get people to upgrade their browsers.
For developers, HTML5 will just bring more interoperability headaches during the transition period, assuming we even feel compelled enough to move en masse to the new std. It's not like HTML4-only browsers are going to disappear overnight once HTML5 reaches "Recommendation" status.
Think about how hard it is to write applications today that work well on all browsers. For the most part, different browsers behave alike, but it really doesn't matter if 95% of your site works for IE6 users; they expect 100% of it to work. If users can't accomplish what they came to do, they'll simply leave; therefore, developers have to find ways to accommodate users' antiquated software. Another standard will only add to the mess.
The problem isn't that we don't have enough standards; it's that we don't have enough compliance to existing standards. HTML5 will only make hitting the target more difficult by setting it on a moving platform.
#222 :: Chris said:
I don't care! I'm using it anyway!
#221 :: Web development and design Preston said:
I can't wait to throw away these dusty old div tags. So unsemantic it makes me feel sick!
#220 :: Luke Price said:
That's funny, because I am using it today... maybe that time machine did work after all.
#219 :: Gazzer said:
Unfortunately this is wrong. This is the date that at least 2 browsers will support the whole spec.
By the same definition CSS2.1 still isn't ready but I suspect there are a few sites out there that use it.
October 2009 is the last call for the working draft and that's a few months away.
#218 :: Jay said:
Hurry Up Please.
#217 :: Jay said:
Hurry Up Please.
#216 :: Como Emagrecer said:
I can´t wait... but perhaps i´ll not alive until there..:-(
#215 :: Mike said:
It's ready now.
#214 :: Gilberto Ramos said:
hello world
#213 :: Marketing Blog said:
Fantastic, I think Html 5 will help us developers building great sites!
HTML 5 is done somewhere in 2022.. And its not made by microsoft every shit fucking dish who thinks that should read the news. Not everything is made by microsoft. if that was true everything was BSOD. even HTML 5 would have a BSOD then Lol. seriously.. Microsoft only makes a few good things..
#205 :: DragonDrop said:
Hurry up.. I need a wee.
#204 :: jimmytofu said:
It was ready last week... but my dog ate it. Sorry guys.
#203 :: charles said:
yeah just let microsoft take care of designing html5 that will require a bunch of licences that will make it usable only in ie version 42.5
#202 :: Buddah said:
OH LOL
#201 :: Max Reimer said:
why is it so long? thats like err 10 years away or something?
#200 :: Andy Brice said:
I'm going to start using it anyway – immediately and fully (unless someone is paying me to do otherwise).
If we all did the same, Internet Explorer would die out very quickly.
#199 :: RIA Commander said:
You folks sound like some earthlinks must have sounded when it was discovered that earth was not flat.
Forget about being stuck in some flat stone ages and jump onto the RIA sphere because it is already here.
#198 :: Me said:
Hey! the counter is static!
#197 :: Richard said:
HTML5 may be ready now but many of my clients, and much of thier audience, are not ready to give up IE6 anytime soon.
#196 :: John said:
I'm really looking forward to this as i really dislike flash and silverlight et al. However, it will just be plagued by browser inconsistencies like everything else that's any good for the web.
#195 :: Veyton Templates said:
thats a cool flame about html5 :-) , love it !
#194 :: Peter said:
NO! its true :( http://wiki.whatwg.org/wiki/FAQ#When_will_HTML_5_be_finished.3F
It is estimated by the editor that HTML5 will reach the W3C Candidate Recommendation stage during 2012.
#193 :: my name said:
this is FAKE. it will be released in 30 Fev.
#192 :: Phil said:
Lime Entertainment *wants* HTML5.
#191 :: Joe Spurling said:
But i want it now....
#190 :: Gustavs said:
Yes, it is.
#189 :: henrrrik said:
If we all agree that it's ready now, it's ready now.
#188 :: yaph said:
Considering differing browser implementations of the various HTML standards is any HTML version ready yet?
#187 :: mortendk said:
my gfs comment... " i coudnt care less"
well dosnt that kinda sums it up ;)
#186 :: Matt said:
Holy cow. I can't wait.
#185 :: Fred said:
:( were all going to die before 2022/html5 comes out :'(
we need to stick with the crappy HTML4 that was made somewhere in 1999 :(
<h1>Fred waits for html5 to come out</h1>
#184 :: Boris said:
Yes. Yes it is ready.
#183 :: Adam Martinez said:
Isn't the world supposed to end in 2012 anyway? ;)
#182 :: Phantom said:
OH MY GOD
#181 :: Yorick Peterse said:
Wow, 2022...That feels like tomorrow :D
#180 :: Alex Crooks said:
That sucks!
#179 :: Aaron said:
2022? 13 years now... Why so long.. :( who made HTML anyway? lol who made the internet who made XHTML?
#178 :: digilime said:
...and 7 days before it is scheduled to become an official W3C recommendation it will get dropped, and in it's place will rise XHTML 2.0... er hang on a minute...
#177 :: digilime said:
...and 7 days before it is scheduled to become an official W3C recommendation it will get dropped, and in it's place will rise XHTML 2.0... er hang on a minute...
#176 :: Seth said:
cool... more then 10 years it`s not so much... my child will love html5 :D
#175 :: Seth said:
cool... more then 10 years it`s not so much... my child will love html5 :D
#174 :: homeowner loans said:
rofl is this the whole site?
not being an ass btw
#173 :: debt help said:
nah, surely it'll only be a couple of years at most
#172 :: derek hosewood said:
why is it so long? thats like err 10 years away or something?
just a joke then?
#171 :: payday loans said:
why is it so long? thats like err 10 years away or something?
just a joke then?
#170 :: payday loans said:
why is it so long? thats like err 10 years away or something?
#169 :: Vagina said:
Awww, too long :(
#168 :: Erwin said:
Wow. This wasn't the answer I was looking for...
#167 :: hak said:
This must be joke...
#166 :: Macumba said:
This is a joke right? How come we will have to use something that was invented in 1999 (HTML 4.01) for 12 more years!?! Who came up with this ETA?
#165 :: Justananomaly said:
I will use this time trying to finally beat my rubiks cube :)
#164 :: LiTTLE MiSS said:
12 years..wtf Ill be 26 by then!!
#163 :: Matthew Wallace said:
We have Flash today!
#162 :: zedia.net said:
Who cares; ain't the world suppose to end in 2012?
#161 :: Matheew said:
HTML5 must force <audio> and <video> whenever bworsers support it or not. Simplycity is the way to go.
#160 :: Matheew said:
HTML5 must force <audio> and <video> whenever bworsers support it or not. Simplycity is the way to go.
#159 :: Dave said:
Actually, IE8 shows promise in terms of HTML5 support. But yeah, you never know with them.
#158 :: Andy said:
Wouldn't be suprised if IE f**k it up like everything else...
#157 :: Dino Baskovic said:
Note to W3C: I hear FUML looks promising...
#156 :: Ricardo Zea said:
July 7 - 2009 » "Only 4560 days to go."
¬¬ ... Seriously.
#155 :: love compatibility said:
That's a ridiculous amount of time. It could easily be outdated by the time it is released.
#154 :: Z Fern said:
Nice to know that the world will never live to see HTML5... *sigh*
#153 :: daniel said:
You got be kidding me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#152 :: No said:
No, it's not ready yet. Don't make me turn this specification around and drive it right back into HTML4.
#151 :: elliot said:
no matter how simple you make it, my man in India will still bollocks it up
#150 :: Benjamin Reid said:
When HTML5 is released, I hope it doesn't put us web people out of a job, as it seems like anyone could pick it up and learn it very fast!
#149 :: Jim Westergren said:
Well I believe it will be in big use only 1-2 years from now.
#148 :: gfh said:
fgh
#147 :: Ny hemsida said:
Oh, twelve years goes so fast when you're having fun coding.
#146 :: Mateusz said:
bullshit! html5 will be ready this year; year 2022 is the moment when at least two browsers will have full html5 support
#145 :: buzzzer said:
HTML5, the final frontier. Endless. Silent. Waiting. This is the story of the W3C. Its mission: a multi-year patrol of the internet. To seek out and contact all alien browsers. To explore. To travel the vast net, where no man has gone before.
#144 :: joelwallis said:
Hi, i came from the future. And yes, the HTML5 is the solution of your problems, but...
The World will be destroyed in 2021!!
#143 :: Quakeulf said:
Hey, I heard the new CSS64.57(X)-DSL release candidate beta is promising. :3
#142 :: Mark said:
Hello. I am from the future. You had all better stop laughing at this. HTML 5 is the brains of the Internets. Now, bow down to it (esp. you, Jeff Croft).
#141 :: anshul agrawal said:
i need to rework my schedule!!
#140 :: Martin Ongtangco said:
In the future, HTML will be replaced by XAML.
#139 :: Pavel said:
We'll sort out what to do with it in our spaceships.
#138 :: Mark(poland) said:
What the.. f...?! I will be married then! God... I will graduate... Can't be! HTML5, i don't like you anymore! ;(
W3C is just kidding... i hope...
#137 :: TroPtyN said:
No i pogadali...
Pozdrawiam mamę, tatę i czytelników Dobrychprogramów.pl :DD
#136 :: Stephen Fairbanks said:
I'm really looking forward to HTML 5, but I might be dead before then.
(the link below now works).
#135 :: Stephen Fairbanks said:
I'm really looking forward to HTML 5, but I might be dead before then.
#134 :: Paulo Cesar said:
Can't be... I can't wait till 2022 for my HTML 5 awesomeness awesome website
#133 :: Nax Sailer said:
The 2022 date is for when we will have two completely bug-free and interoperable implementations of the entire spec, which is something that we've never had for any major Web spec since the start of the Web. It's a very audacious goal, and actually achiev
#132 :: Nax Sailer said:
The 2022 date is for when we will have two completely bug-free and interoperable implementations of the entire spec, which is something that we've never had for any major Web spec since the start of the Web. It's a very audacious goal, and actually achiev
#131 :: Webhosting said:
ja, sehr interessant das ganze hier. Freue mich immer wieder hier zu sein.
#130 :: Webdesign said:
congratulation for this homepage
#129 :: NavinS said:
suits as a remainder :)
#128 :: Seo Company said:
CSS3 is good for me, but sometime this will provide error when we validate page via W3C validator.
#127 :: Manny Pacquiao said:
I'm just happy to see a update, finally!
#126 :: Webhoster said:
So far I've been very disappointed with the HTML5 spec. They're just replacing common DIV names to official elements. Would much rather see XHTML 2.0 released or, even better, CSS3 adoption.
#125 :: Jane said:
This si Html 4.01 transitional, damn sure.
Jane
#124 :: Webhoster said:
I think also
#123 :: Jordan Clark said:
2022? Cancer will be cured; cars will fly; CSS 2.1 will be fully supported by all browsers (okay, I might be being a little <em>too</em> optimistic now…)
I can't wait!
#122 :: Seo said:
Really, they need to have something really
#121 :: Seo said:
Really, they need to have something really
#120 :: Seo said:
Really, they need to have something really
#119 :: Sharanyan said:
Really Need Html5, With W3C validation Guidelines!
Regards,
Sharanyan
#118 :: topcweb said:
Seems like quite a long time. Hopefully this is not accurate.
nur noch 4624 tage, ich bin schon voller vorfreude.
#112 :: Sven Fischer said:
Hauptsache CSS läuft auf allen Browsern.
#111 :: Carsten said:
WOZU html5 ? ;-))
#110 :: Content Management Expert said:
Who needs HTML5? ;-)
#109 :: Abdallah Meckki said:
Ok ..ok ..I'll start to use it ..When I'm Dead
#108 :: coskunlar vinc said:
Nah, I wait for version 6.
#107 :: coskunlar vinc said:
Nah, I wait for version 6.
#106 :: Felipe said:
Porra! Que demora, vai se fude!
#105 :: Arun Pattnaik said:
Whoa! that's 12 years! probably windows 9 would have been launched by then ;)
#104 :: Arun Pattnaik said:
Whoa! that's 12 years! probably windows 9 would have been launched by then ;)
#103 :: tGDA said:
is it 2022/01/01 or 2022/12/31?
like it makes any difference now : )
#102 :: Roel G said:
Nah, I wait for version 6.
#101 :: John The Creative said:
long. too long. we should leave the five with its killing terms, skip it and proceed with the six starting tomorrow.
#100 :: developbyte said:
html css js and other
very fanny
=) go
#99 :: tadatuta said:
is css3 ready yet?
#98 :: Zul Azman said:
Wow! That's a long way to go..
#97 :: Tim Wright said:
So far I've been very disappointed with the HTML5 spec. They're just replacing common DIV names to official elements. Would much rather see XHTML 2.0 released or, even better, CSS3 adoption.
#96 :: Jay Robinson said:
I'll set a reminder in iCal.
#95 :: HTML5 said:
WOW!! Why so long?
#94 :: The Web Squeeze said:
WOW! Talk about a long time away! Can't wait!
#93 :: Josh Pyles said:
Talk about some serious job security!
#92 :: Luke Dorny said:
Back to the future yet?
#91 :: Dilip Shukla said:
This one not earlier one http://blog.sourcebits.com/seperation-of-web
#90 :: Dilip Shukla said:
Nice article on this fact
http://blog.sourcebits.com/war-of-the-worlds
#89 :: Dilip Shukla said:
WOW ! I hope till then developers will prove HTML5 is all buggy, impractical, insane etc....plus some wish-list. One more website will be counting IsHTML6Ready? Answer: No. Make your own man don't bother.
#88 :: Tim Dorr said:
2022? Don't they know the apocalypse is 10 years before that? No one will be left to enjoy it!
#87 :: Dennison Uy said:
Whoever set the 2022 target date sure does have a weird sense of humor.
#86 :: user_name said:
Nice. Some of us will certainly be dead by then.
#85 :: NJ Web Guy said:
Wow, it seems like just yesterday we were designing our web sites with tables, and tomorrow it will be HTML5.
#84 :: Jose said:
Almost there now. :P
#83 :: John said:
We will be to old to bother then. I don't even want to count how many years I'll have in 2022...
#82 :: Dan said:
I'd rather play with CSS3 anyway...
#81 :: Trevor Pierce said:
I'd like to think HTML5 and microformats could be implemented today, across the board--with no hacks--but I don't see it happening. For anything but personal or experimental sites it's a non-starter.
#80 :: Nethitters said:
Or at the very least, this site should use a valid doctype
#79 :: Aleksey said:
This website needs to be rewritten in HTML 5. :)
#78 :: Q5 Webdesign said:
4726 days, aahhhh please hurry!
#77 :: Gekon said:
Fuck, nobody's gonna read this comment, coz' it's way too much deep:-)
#76 :: Kohout said:
Can't wait :)
#75 :: qingbo said:
Fine. Wish I won't die before that day.
#74 :: J.Knesl said:
I'm looking forward for usable support in major browsers.
#73 :: Woud Hobbelink said:
Still counting...
#72 :: film indir said:
i am waiting html 5 i hope good work
#71 :: Tobias Otte said:
HTML 5 in action http://atag.accessiblemedia.at/
#70 :: Andrei Eftimie said:
all we need is a hour/minute/second counter underneath the day counter
i want to stare at it!
#69 :: Jens Meiert said:
With the 4735 days currently to go, that statement still sounds both sadistic and masochistic. It’s probably not a bad idea to point out that some parts of HTML 5 can already be used ;)
#68 :: Matthias said:
Way to go!
#67 :: orta said:
Croc's right, it's here. You can even get IE6 to join in the fun witha bit of a push (read the source code to my site if you want to see) http://www.ortatherox.com
#66 :: bigCat said:
I wish IE6 die at that moment
yea,It sound sweet
zezeze
#65 :: standardista said:
HTML5 is cluttered and bare.
#64 :: neyazsak said:
oh my god.Why????
#63 :: Richard Heyes said:
Yes - I've created a graphing library around the canvas tag:
http://www.rgraph.org
#62 :: Daniel said:
Seeing how we're still struggling with browsers like IE6, I don't really put much effort into worrying about when HTML5 will be ready for the REAL world
#61 :: Kroc Camen said:
YES.
See http://camendesign.com
#60 :: wet said:
Standardization takes ages, that's the very nature of it. I dearly like the fact that the underpinnings of the web grow better and better each day while we continue to build the mesh.
#59 :: SneakyWho_am_i said:
It's going to take so long to be ready (1 - 4 years from now) because it's doing everything right that was glossed over in HTML4.01 - not that HTML4.01 wasn't brilliant, I couldn't have done any better..
But yes, this time it'll be done RIGHT.
We will be able to use it all by then same as we can use CSS2.1 now. Opera and/or Apple and/or Mozilla will have a browser that supports it 100% by 2022 (which will take a fantastic effort)
#58 :: Nat said:
It's so easy to ridicule the enonormous effort Hixie et al. put into the standard editing. I value their work beyond any measure.
#57 :: Robert said:
Why don't we just skip HTML 5 at all and proceed striaght to HTML 6 instead? May it'll make things easier...
#56 :: SneakyWho_am_i said:
lol!! :D This is great! If I may speak.. I think html 5 is ready now for personal/intranet websites. A bit of unobtrusive javascript nicely tidies up forms, and IE6 (in which it is near impossible to disable "JScript") can be made with one or two short lines of javascript to even apply the appropriate styles to HTML5 elements! :D
What I'm hanging out for is the sample/example stylesheet to go with them, as I'm making an unhealthy number of assumptions about what the new elements will look like.
Yes, irresponsible perhaps to code for a moving target but I'm writing HTML 5 now, I needed it two years ago.
It would pay to remember that 2022 is the estimated date for when browsers will be ready for HTML5, not the date for when HTML5 itself will be ready for use.
For comparison, no browser has completely implemented HTML 4.01 yet, or any flavour of XHTML - even though those specifications were penned over a decade ago.
#55 :: Bhai Joginder Singh said:
Wahe Guru willing, HTML5 will be ready sooner than everybody expects.
#54 :: snuke said:
wow, can't wait though!
#53 :: Barney said:
@Ian Hickson & Anne van Kesteren:
Thanks for the considered comments!
@owners:
Brilliant. Good laugh. Made me look.
#52 :: Brian said:
This made my morning:)
#51 :: Garth said:
Hahahaha, 4444 sounds good.
#50 :: Kristopher said:
Haha I was going to say, why come 4444 wasn't special?
#49 :: Geoffrey Sneddon said:
Woops, that meant to be 4444 days.
#48 :: Zack Katz @ Katz Web Design said:
I hear that's when Twitter expects their servers to scale properly, too!
#47 :: CollabStation.com said:
LOL a new type of computing will be out before this. www.collabstation.com
collabstation.com/projects/droppedgt
#46 :: Garth said:
Geoffrey Sneddon: Count me in.
The weird part is some of us might have had the odd chance to meet in real life by then...
#45 :: Jim Silverman said:
What's the estimate for when IE will support HTML5? 2050?
#44 :: Geoffrey Sneddon said:
Anyone want to party when it reaches 444 days?
#43 :: Dor said:
"Only"? That's it? I thought it's gonna be longer...
#42 :: Issam El Armi said:
I'll get old before tasting HTML5....
Nevermind XML / XSLT for the win ^^
#41 :: CollabStation.com said:
I'm sure websites will be 3d environments before this is complete
#40 :: amro mousa said:
Brilliant. Any guesses on HTML 6?
#39 :: Werbeagentur said:
nice one! think we'll have to switch using xslt ...
#38 :: Rob Hudson said:
Can you add an RSS feed to this site so I don't have to keep checking every day?
#37 :: DanBUK said:
Well seeing as the draft only just appeared I am thinking this is a very long time off...
(15 September 2008 Draft Published..)
http://www.w3.org/html/wg/html5/
#36 :: Scott Mallinson said:
I'll be 37 by the time HTML5 is released? I'd best start planning my retirement now.
#35 :: Wolotko Dimitry said:
And CSS 3 is not ready too :(
#34 :: Darwin said:
So many days ? o_O
#33 :: neolao said:
CSS 3 is not ready too
#32 :: Martin Hassman said:
Ready for WHO? Aren't some parts of HTML5 ready for ordinary webdesigners already?
#31 :: Brade said:
I'm pretty sure humans will have learned to fly by then, and websites will be the last thing on our minds.
#30 :: Arne Richter said:
This time table is not relevant to web workers. We will all rely on HTML5 in just a few years. It is right around the corner. Self delusion? Yes!
#29 :: Dan W said:
Will IE6 still be around?
#28 :: daragh said:
We shall not cease from exploration and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where we started and know the place for the first time.
Quote: <em>"That's plenty of time to let Flash and Silverlight make it irrelevant."</em>
I can't speak for Microsoft, but from what I've seen inside Macromedia and Adobe the last decade, that's not only not a priority, but would be seen as a stupid and
#25 :: Saulo said:
Wait, but... Isn't the world ending in 2012?
#24 :: Saul said:
OK, everyone has to google "Wakuko", that guy is a blast :)
#23 :: Mootkins said:
XHTML Basic 1.0 is all I need.
(^_^)/
#22 :: Wakuko said:
I bet my balls M$ is bribing every single person involved in HTML5 to delay its implementation to further their agenda of killing the web.
They have done so in every committee they have been involved.
#21 :: World music said:
I thing it is only 634 days left ;-)
#20 :: World music said:
What if all browsers will support it earlier? Than the counter is not needed!
#19 :: Oliver said:
This is nice, but where it the mailing list form ? (:
#18 :: Julian K. said:
It makes me laugh when I think about it...
#17 :: Ian Hickson said:
If anyone wants to help us, the HTML5 effort is a completely open community project which anyone is free to join. See http://whatwg.org/ for more details, or join us on Freenode IRC in channel #whatwg.
#16 :: Ian Hickson said:
The spec itself will be "done" (in what we call "last call") in late 2009 according to the current timetable, with the finishing touches ("candidate recommendation") done by 2012. That's about on par with how long it has taken to do other specifications o
#15 :: Ian Hickson said:
The 2022 date is for when we will have two completely bug-free and interoperable implementations of the entire spec, which is something that we've never had for any major Web spec since the start of the Web. It's a very audacious goal, and actually achiev
#14 :: Ian Hickson said:
HTML5 is already "ready" in terms of whether browsers can start implementing or in terms of whether authors can start using it. There are little indicators in the spec showing how "ready" each part is.
The 2022 date is for when we will have two complet
#13 :: Daniel J. Pemberton said:
This page is no longer valid XHTML 1.0 Strict, or valid CSS. Please place a closing div for id "commentform" and in style.css, the color 222 in p#verdict needs to be #222. Thanks, and here's to the future of HTML5.
#12 :: Dume Ahs said:
Maybe HTML 5 will be so smart it will close all div tags for you and not give a hoot whether there is a hash sign in front hexadecimal attributes.
#11 :: Preben said:
Damn, how long can it take to write even one specification. Are they gonna throw in like 1000 new things? Really, they need to have something really marvellous in html 5, when they use, well 15-20 years to make.
And the earth need to survive like, 100
#10 :: Kevin Lamping said:
Good thing I have this counter, I'll probably get alzheimer's with half the days left to go.
#9 :: Nick Sergeant said:
I'm interested to see what happens to this page in 4,858 days. Oh... wait...
#8 :: John said:
At this rate html6 is going to be done before html5.
#7 :: Anne van Kesteren said:
When you mesaure like this most things are not ready :-)
#6 :: Dave said:
Now we just need an RSS feed!
#5 :: tw said:
Only just 3 presidential terms + change! It'll be here in a flash!
#4 :: indigi said:
Aw, man!
#3 :: chad said:
That's plenty of time to let Flash and Silverlight make it irrelevant. XML and Microformats look to be teh future.
#2 :: Jason Beaird said:
...and just like that, the flame wars begin again! :)