NO

Only 4789 days to go.

Seeing how we're still struggling with browsers like IE6, I don't really put much effort into worrying about when HTML5 will be ready for the REAL world

by Daniel on October 15, 2008, 4:43 pm

YES. See http://camendesign.com

by Kroc Camen on October 10, 2008, 1:10 pm

Standardization takes ages, that's the very nature of it. I dearly like the fact that the underpinnings of the web grow better and better each day while we continue to build the mesh.

by wet on October 10, 2008, 3:45 am

It's going to take so long to be ready (1 - 4 years from now) because it's doing everything right that was glossed over in HTML4.01 - not that HTML4.01 wasn't brilliant, I couldn't have done any better.. But yes, this time it'll be done RIGHT. We will be able to use it all by then same as we can use CSS2.1 now. Opera and/or Apple and/or Mozilla will have a browser that supports it 100% by 2022 (which will take a fantastic effort)

by SneakyWho_am_i on October 10, 2008, 12:36 am

It's so easy to ridicule the enonormous effort Hixie et al. put into the standard editing. I value their work beyond any measure.

by Nat on October 9, 2008, 6:45 am

Why don't we just skip HTML 5 at all and proceed striaght to HTML 6 instead? May it'll make things easier...

by Robert on October 9, 2008, 6:29 am

lol!! :D This is great! If I may speak.. I think html 5 is ready now for personal/intranet websites. A bit of unobtrusive javascript nicely tidies up forms, and IE6 (in which it is near impossible to disable "JScript") can be made with one or two short lines of javascript to even apply the appropriate styles to HTML5 elements! :D What I'm hanging out for is the sample/example stylesheet to go with them, as I'm making an unhealthy number of assumptions about what the new elements will look like. Yes, irresponsible perhaps to code for a moving target but I'm writing HTML 5 now, I needed it two years ago. It would pay to remember that 2022 is the estimated date for when browsers will be ready for HTML5, not the date for when HTML5 itself will be ready for use. For comparison, no browser has completely implemented HTML 4.01 yet, or any flavour of XHTML - even though those specifications were penned over a decade ago.

by SneakyWho_am_i on October 8, 2008, 4:58 am

Wahe Guru willing, HTML5 will be ready sooner than everybody expects.

by Bhai Joginder Singh on October 7, 2008, 12:47 pm

wow, can't wait though!

by snuke on October 5, 2008, 6:20 am

@Ian Hickson & Anne van Kesteren: Thanks for the considered comments! @owners: Brilliant. Good laugh. Made me look.

by Barney on October 2, 2008, 11:55 am

This made my morning:)

by Brian on September 26, 2008, 12:58 pm

Hahahaha, 4444 sounds good.

by Garth on September 24, 2008, 12:05 am

Haha I was going to say, why come 4444 wasn't special?

by Kristopher on September 18, 2008, 8:24 pm

Woops, that meant to be 4444 days.

by Geoffrey Sneddon on September 18, 2008, 12:32 pm

I hear that's when Twitter expects their servers to scale properly, too!

by Zack Katz @ Katz Web Design on September 18, 2008, 6:31 am

LOL a new type of computing will be out before this. www.collabstation.com collabstation.com/projects/droppedgt

by CollabStation.com on September 17, 2008, 11:44 pm

Geoffrey Sneddon: Count me in. The weird part is some of us might have had the odd chance to meet in real life by then...

by Garth on September 16, 2008, 7:09 pm

What's the estimate for when IE will support HTML5? 2050?

by Jim Silverman on September 16, 2008, 12:50 pm

Anyone want to party when it reaches 444 days?

by Geoffrey Sneddon on September 16, 2008, 10:56 am

"Only"? That's it? I thought it's gonna be longer...

by Dor on September 15, 2008, 11:26 pm

I'll get old before tasting HTML5.... Nevermind XML / XSLT for the win ^^

by Issam El Armi on September 15, 2008, 8:57 pm

I'm sure websites will be 3d environments before this is complete

by CollabStation.com on September 15, 2008, 4:05 pm

Brilliant. Any guesses on HTML 6?

by amro mousa on September 15, 2008, 3:34 pm

nice one! think we'll have to switch using xslt ...

by Werbeagentur on September 15, 2008, 11:24 am

Can you add an RSS feed to this site so I don't have to keep checking every day?

by Rob Hudson on September 15, 2008, 7:20 am

Well seeing as the draft only just appeared I am thinking this is a very long time off... (15 September 2008 Draft Published..) http://www.w3.org/html/wg/html5/

by DanBUK on September 15, 2008, 6:13 am

I'll be 37 by the time HTML5 is released? I'd best start planning my retirement now.

by Scott Mallinson on September 15, 2008, 5:45 am

And CSS 3 is not ready too :(

by Wolotko Dimitry on September 15, 2008, 3:37 am

So many days ? o_O

by Darwin on September 14, 2008, 9:35 pm

CSS 3 is not ready too

by neolao on September 14, 2008, 10:59 am

Ready for WHO? Aren't some parts of HTML5 ready for ordinary webdesigners already?

by Martin Hassman on September 13, 2008, 10:04 pm

I'm pretty sure humans will have learned to fly by then, and websites will be the last thing on our minds.

by Brade on September 13, 2008, 6:43 pm

This time table is not relevant to web workers. We will all rely on HTML5 in just a few years. It is right around the corner. Self delusion? Yes!

by Arne Richter on September 13, 2008, 1:53 pm

Will IE6 still be around?

by Dan W on September 13, 2008, 1:14 pm

We shall not cease from exploration and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where we started and know the place for the first time.

by daragh on September 13, 2008, 10:49 am

ah, great, unadvertised comment limits, whatever.... ;-)

by John Dowdell on September 13, 2008, 9:47 am

Quote: "That's plenty of time to let Flash and Silverlight make it irrelevant." I can't speak for Microsoft, but from what I've seen inside Macromedia and Adobe the last decade, that's not only not a priority, but would be seen as a stupid and

by John Dowdell on September 13, 2008, 9:47 am

Wait, but... Isn't the world ending in 2012?

by Saulo on September 13, 2008, 8:35 am

OK, everyone has to google "Wakuko", that guy is a blast :)

by Saul on September 13, 2008, 7:36 am

XHTML Basic 1.0 is all I need. (^_^)/

by Mootkins on September 13, 2008, 7:25 am

I bet my balls M$ is bribing every single person involved in HTML5 to delay its implementation to further their agenda of killing the web. They have done so in every committee they have been involved.

by Wakuko on September 13, 2008, 5:03 am

I thing it is only 634 days left ;-)

by World music on September 13, 2008, 4:18 am

What if all browsers will support it earlier? Than the counter is not needed!

by World music on September 13, 2008, 4:17 am

This is nice, but where it the mailing list form ? (:

by Oliver on September 13, 2008, 3:09 am

It makes me laugh when I think about it...

by Julian K. on September 13, 2008, 12:14 am

If anyone wants to help us, the HTML5 effort is a completely open community project which anyone is free to join. See http://whatwg.org/ for more details, or join us on Freenode IRC in channel #whatwg.

by Ian Hickson on September 12, 2008, 10:16 pm

The spec itself will be "done" (in what we call "last call") in late 2009 according to the current timetable, with the finishing touches ("candidate recommendation") done by 2012. That's about on par with how long it has taken to do other specifications o

by Ian Hickson on September 12, 2008, 10:16 pm

The 2022 date is for when we will have two completely bug-free and interoperable implementations of the entire spec, which is something that we've never had for any major Web spec since the start of the Web. It's a very audacious goal, and actually achiev

by Ian Hickson on September 12, 2008, 10:16 pm

HTML5 is already "ready" in terms of whether browsers can start implementing or in terms of whether authors can start using it. There are little indicators in the spec showing how "ready" each part is. The 2022 date is for when we will have two complet

by Ian Hickson on September 12, 2008, 10:15 pm

This page is no longer valid XHTML 1.0 Strict, or valid CSS. Please place a closing div for id "commentform" and in style.css, the color 222 in p#verdict needs to be #222. Thanks, and here's to the future of HTML5.

by Daniel J. Pemberton on September 12, 2008, 8:21 pm

Maybe HTML 5 will be so smart it will close all div tags for you and not give a hoot whether there is a hash sign in front hexadecimal attributes.

by Dume Ahs on September 12, 2008, 8:21 pm

Damn, how long can it take to write even one specification. Are they gonna throw in like 1000 new things? Really, they need to have something really marvellous in html 5, when they use, well 15-20 years to make. And the earth need to survive like, 100

by Preben on September 12, 2008, 6:50 pm

Good thing I have this counter, I'll probably get alzheimer's with half the days left to go.

by Kevin Lamping on September 12, 2008, 6:32 pm

I'm interested to see what happens to this page in 4,858 days. Oh... wait...

by Nick Sergeant on September 12, 2008, 5:42 pm

At this rate html6 is going to be done before html5.

by John on September 12, 2008, 2:25 pm

When you mesaure like this most things are not ready :-)

by Anne van Kesteren on September 12, 2008, 2:16 pm

Now we just need an RSS feed!

by Dave on September 12, 2008, 2:03 pm

Only just 3 presidential terms + change! It'll be here in a flash!

by tw on September 12, 2008, 1:30 pm

Aw, man!

by indigi on September 12, 2008, 1:29 pm

That's plenty of time to let Flash and Silverlight make it irrelevant. XML and Microformats look to be teh future.

by chad on September 12, 2008, 1:04 pm

...and just like that, the flame wars begin again! :)

by Jason Beaird on September 12, 2008, 12:42 pm

That sure is a long time away!

by J Cornelius on September 12, 2008, 12:21 pm

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